Tuesday, August 23, 2005

Hinsliff has nothing on Evans

On the back of my earlier post about Gaby Hinsliff’s Observer article, an anonymous comment has directed my attention to this BBC piece by Stephan Evans which also inserts a slam against the US totally out of the blue.

Evans is ostensibly addressing the merits of a comment by Lord Norman Tebbit, in which Tebbit claimed that “nowhere in the Muslim world has there been any real advance in science or art or literature or technology in the last 500 years.” Evans suggests that Tebbit has a point, at least with regard to technology, and attempts to put forward an explanation. Citing the work of a Harvard scholar, Evans says that, for cultures dominated by concern for God, there is little reason for curiosity about anything else. He then gives us this curious series of statements.

Of course, theocracies are not a Muslim monopoly.

The rulers of the Christian Catholic theocracies of mediaeval Spain and Italy had a deep suspicion of new knowledge - witness the persecution of Galileo after he challenged the view that the sun revolved around the earth.

And today, one wonders how much curiosity about evolution there might be in the American Bible Belt where evolution's scientific worth is denied.

In contrast, the countries of northern Europe with a different, perhaps looser set of attitudes produced many of the technological developments which were crucial to later industrial development - small developments with a big impact, like mechanical clocks or reading glasses that enabled craftsmen to make more detailed machinery.

To be honest, the comment about the US is so out of place and incoherent with the surrounding text (Is the US really an example of a non-Muslim theocracy? Does America’s technological achievements really compare unfavorably “in contrast to” those of northern Europe? I don’t think so.) that it strikes me as simply a snide comment inserted for the amusement of an editor, and it accidentally got left in the published piece. It does seem to me to be just the kind of contemptuous comment that would get a few yucks in the BBC newsroom. But, intentionally part of the piece or not, its presence does give us an insight into Evans’ thinking, which seems to be typical BBC condescension towards Americans with religious beliefs.

BTW, who strikes you as more incurious about the scientific value of evolutionary theory, those who seem interested in investigating its possible deficiencies or those who refuse to acknowledge that any such deficiencies might exist?

2 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"BTW, who strikes you as more incurious about the scientific value of evolutionary theory, those who seem interested in investigating its possible deficiencies or those who refuse to acknowledge that any such deficiencies might exist?"

I hope you are not suggesting that ID in anyway investigates the deficiencies of evolution. No serious biologist disagrees with the theory of evolution, although they disagree on some of the details. Evolution is one of the best supported theories of all time. ID is "god-did-it" without mentioning "god".

You may as well investigate the deficiencies of the "round earth thoery" and praise flat earthers for their curiosity.

(All that said, a fantastic blog I arrived at via daily ablutions. I am steadlily working my way through the archives, and have not found much to disagree with. Hence the above comment stuck out like a sore thumb. )

2:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stupid comment from Evans about the US - you are right about it being totally out of place.

However you are again misunderstanding evolution and the development of the theory. As the above contributor says the details are being debated all the time. Any potential deficiencies ahve been investigated or can easily be shown not to be deficiencies at all, just misrepresentations of the meaning of evolution or misunderstanding of the timescales involved.

The reason it is one of the best supported theories around is that it has been attacked so much, therefore tested so often.

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